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Episode 1.19: Nerve BB: No "previously on Farscape..." This is, uh, episode nineteen of season one: Nerve. The beautiful lady you see kicking ass there is Claudia Black, who's sitting next to me. CB: [laughs] Hi. [laughs] The, uh, fine gentleman who just walked into the room with the Khaki T-shirt soon to be lost as he gets cooler and cooler in black, is Mister Ben Browder. BB: It's always the sign of a good episode if it starts with Claudia smacking things around. [they both laugh] Particularly that punching bag. CB: I'm actually very uncoordinated. The fact that I was cast to play a soldier is hysterical to me since my father used to laugh at me on sports days. But, um... Paul Leyden, who played Larraq, a few episodes before this, episode sixteen, uh, showed me a couple of moves, because we were about to go into this episode, and there's one cool move, when she says, "Leave me alone," which he sort of showed me that little maneuver. BB: I dunno, you gotta couple of cool moves. That was one. What was that? CB: Oh, probably, I dunno... BB: Licorice? CB: blackberry... Ah, licorice! It was. You're absolutely right. BB: Same thing as D'Argo's blood. Now that is a cool move! CB: Yeah, I like that one. BB: I think you almost got me... [they both laugh] I was a bit worried about that, that move. But it [was] good and the camera move was fantastic on it. Do you remember who the steady-cam operator was? CB: Was it Marty Lee? No, no.. CB/BB: [together] I think it was Thor... CB: It was Thor. BB: Yes, we had a steady-cam operator who was well built and he was called "Thor," so could sling the camera around. CB: Mm. [agreement] Look how young you are... BB: Oh, please! CB: Oh, man... BB: [laughs] We're here pining for the days when we were young, and we could actually move around and do those things. CB: So, story-wise, I mean... [sighs] We take it as a given that Aeryn looks as if she could be human, but being sebacean there are things medically which ah, which uh pop up occasionally. Pop up occasionally. Her "paraphoral nerve" has been damaged. BB: Did you ever get a good explanation what that was? CB: No, but, uh, interesting enough the way the story seems to wind up in the Farscape mini-series down the line it's quite interesting that there's something, a medical anomaly which... BB: Uh, with, with generous enhancements, I think, was the term finally used for why sebaceans and humans are so different. CB: There ya go. BB: But that's something for the mini-series and, uh, you'll have to wait 'til the very end of, what, 2005... CB: Yeah. BB: ...probably to see that on DVD and then we can talk about the differences between humans and sebaceans. Suffice it to say that they are somewhat different. But when our writers would start explaining something like that, um, in the room... in the writer's room it's called technobabble... CB: [chuckles] BB: ...and we tend to gloss over it as quickly as we can to get on with the story. It simply is there as a [furfee?] to move the story along. So we have to save Aeryn. CB: Gigi Edgley who'd come on in episode fifteen... um... fifteen? Was it fifteen? BB: Yes, episode fifteen, season one. CB: So, a couple of eps down the line, becoming more established member of the cast and Moya crew. Um, at this stage Gigi was still being asked to do different things by different, uh, factions. So some days she'd come to set and she'd be doing her American accent, which was originally established in the auditions, and then she would, uh, be asked to do an Australian accent, and then she'd be asked to do an American accent. She'd have to go in and ADR over the American accent with an Australian accent, which was a massive... massively traumatic thing to ask an actor who's just joining a show like ours to do, and she handled it very well. BB: Yeah. This episode is directed by Rowan Woods. Uh, Rowan's favorite term, I think, is probably "uncompromising, and if you want to run back and look at the blocking of this scene, it's very unusual blocking. Uh, we have five people in a scene. Those scenes are very difficult to shoot. Crichton is actually looking out, not looking at anyone. D'Argo is doing the same. And only a director like Rowan usually has the bravery to shoot a scene in this fashion. Very un-TV. And Bluey cries. Virginia could cry. CB: [chuckles] BB: The girl could cry a lot. Ah, the... CB: I think four and a half hours of makeup is enough to cry about right there. BB: [laughs] Absolutely! CB: Shaving your head, shaving your eyebrows... BB: That's... that's what she did. Any time she needed to cry, she just thought about... CB: ...the ultimate sacrifice... BB: ...wearing that makeup. I have to shave my head... again! CB: Oh, boy. Beautiful makeup. It was a massive amount of work-shopping from a lot of people, but, right, essentially, I think, at the end of the day Lesley Vanderwalt's design... BB: Uh huh, season one, Lesley Vanderwalt was the head of makeup, and she did... just a magnificent job. CB: My makeup design went through a couple of different phases too... Originally they wanted me to look quite hard. When they establish me in the cell in this sort of spider-like, arachnid-like soldier outfit, and it's revealed that it's actually a woman underneath and not a man, they continued that thematically with the makeup. So all my season one gallery shoot, publicity photos, I look quite butch. By the fourth season I've got glitter. [chuckles] Now this is Larraq's outfit that Crichton's stolen. Or taken. BB: Right. It's, uh... not the last time that I end up wearing that outfit, but it is... CB/BB: [together] ...the first time. BB: Yeah, first time we see him in that look. CB: And Aeryn and Crichton, as far as their relationship is concerned, they have... they're quite formal in this moment, where she asks if there's a way to handle the situation, and he suggests a handshake. BB: Very unusual for her to ask at this stage... CB: Yeah. BB: ...of their relationship. Or her development as a character. CB: And in this story, it's, you know, later on with D'Argo as well, it appears that everyone is trying to allow to be what she knows best, and that is a warrior, so Crichton's being... giving her the dignity of... of, you know, controlling her emotion and having a... a meaningful but not melodramatic potential goodbye. BB: Gosh, I still remember shooting this scene. Do you remember shooting it? CB: [inhales, pauses, and then sighs] BB: [laughs] This is where... It was a lot of water under the bridge by this point, but I... I remember shooting this scene that day, with the handshake. CB: This is Garner MacLennan's CGI from season one. Now we cut to the CGI Pilot in the shell, which we, we, we did less and less as the seasons progressed. It's very expensive to have these, uh, these CGI tokens used. BB: Yeah, but we saw quite a bit of him in the shell in season one. CB: A lot of CGI in this episode, actually. The shoehorn prop. BB: [chuckles] Every time I would go out to fly, I would want to do pre-flight check. CB: [chuckles] BB: I have a... have a pilot... I have an uncle who's a pilot, and he always told me, "You have to do pre-flight. You gotta do pre-flight." So anytime Crichton went anywhere, I always wanted to pull out some blinking prop and pretend like I knew what I was doing, so... Doing pre-flight on the prowler like I really know anything at all about it. CB: I used to... I tried to do some, um, some self-defense stuff with some guys from the, um... Is it SAS? BB: [laughs] I guess! That's the, uh... That's the special forces secret guys. CB: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And they would say, "Okay, you can go... if you come... if a guy's coming towards you, you can do... Oh, no, that'd kill them. Okay, you can do... No, that'd kill them too." And it took about half an hour for these guys to come up with a maneuver that didn't actually murder people. BB: So Paul Leyden finally showed you a move that didn't kill somebody. CB/BB: [laugh together] BB: Oh, no, wait... That's kill somebody. CB: [chuckles] This is the first time that Chiana is offering to help the team, and you're... Crichton's questioning her motives, I believe. BB: Yeah, I, I, I was getting in for a close look to see what I could see, but... CB: [sarcastically] Right... BB: ...it looks like something else... CB: ...looks like... BB: ...is going on. CB: Yeah, no. Is she sexy? Yeah, she's sexy. And later I might do her, like GILINA! BB: [laughs] Who we're gonna see later. Now one of the things about this episode, Nerve, and one of the reason I love it so much... There's only a couple of episodes in season one which really pertain to the large arc of the series. CB: Yep. BB: In every episode, when I went back and watched episodes, I realized that you, you can't ignore any episode of Farscape because it will be referred to at some point. I think every episode had a reference in some other episode. But this is an episode which completely changes the tone of the series and also sets up the large arc for the next four years. So you have to pay attention when you watch this episode. It introduces some characters who we're going to continue to see, and it also the first time that the audience gets revealed what the large arc of the series is. CB: Yeah, I mean in ep... yeah, exactly, the first season it's about Crichton being pursued by Crais and then by the end of this episode we realize he's got a lot more problems than... than just Bialar Crais to deal with now. BB: Did you ever get an explanation of what those little red lights are for, other than looking cool? CB: Well, they're actually supposed to be neural... BB: Sort of like a head's up display? CB: Yeah. Kinda. BB: 'Cause... 'Cause they didn't explain that to me. CB: Well, yeah... BB: [laughs] CB: But it... they're supposed to connect with your brain and... [laughs with Ben] BB: They said[?], [in a fake gruff voice] "Oh, they look cool kid. I'll put 'em on nice." CB: Yeah. No, they realized after shooting you in them that they look dumb going straight into the eyes, so they pulled them back. Especially since I have big dark circles under my eyes, naturally. BB: No, look, see... They, they, they look fine on you. So you look good in them. CB: No, no. BB: I look... But you... Dumb, yes. You put it on Ben and it'll look dumb. CB:I can't believe Aeryn let you use her prowler. Unbelievable. That's her one and only. BB: You... Look, it was the only way to get in there... CB: Whew! BB: You were... you were laying in bed, dying. CB: I have a question, actually... BB: No one asked permission. Yes? CB: He talked... Chiana and Crichton just talked about the fact that they get intercepted and they have, you know, weapons pointed at them, and you have to, you know, prove your identity. BB: Yes, with a... with a bad accent. CB: Yeah. BB: Always the best way. CB: [snorts] BB: [laughs] CB: But then when... later on, when Aeryn and D'Argo come down Aeryn says if they had... if they could ah... if they had detectors on top, that we'd know that it was a base, so we won't be detected until we fly down closer. BB: It's a very, very secret base. [laughs] So secret... CB: Yeah. I mean get [??]... BB: So secret they don't know what the outside world is coming... CB: Ah, this is... Rowan used slow-mo a lot, and he did it... used it to introduce characters. Tony Tilse did it for Gigi. Beautiful moment when we first see Chiana. And, and there's a lot of slow-mo that's used to great effect, I think, in this episode. BB: Yeah, we're shooting at forty frames instead of the normal twenty five frames. Twenty four frames, at which we usually shoot at. CB: This is a big... BB: But it makes you look really cool! CB: [chuckles] BB: And that's why I like it. You know. At, at normal speed, I don't look cool. At forty frames, even I can look cool. CB: This was a pretty big budget, these two episodes. 'Cause as a two-parter, there was enough to justify... I mean, big set dresses, and... uh... props that go "ping." BB: Large casts, and lots of... lots of uh... [laughs] Lots of Imperial Guards [continues laugh] with helmets on. You know they're going to miss when you see the helmet. CB: But still, it... BB: It's a fact. They cannot hit a damned thing. You put a helmet on anyone in sci fi, cover their head, they're not going to hit the broadside of a barn. CB: [laughing] I love the guy in the background that's directing planes. It's like a scene out of Flying High, like who, where are the planes? BB: [chuckles] Because it was Top Gun. CB: [chuckles] 'Cause they look cool. BB: Come on in! And we are actually waiting for Tom Cruise. The disappointment when I got out of the plane was... was... was profound. Um... Commander Javio there, um... is... uh... oh, goodness gracious... look to the notes... CB: Stephen Leeder. BB: ...Stephen Leeder, who you have worked with, uh, and is a wonderful actor. Rowan always brought really interesting cast into our episodes. Sometimes they were too interesting. [laughs] Rowan had done about... Rowan Woods, the director, had done about a thousand short films. He was the king of Australian short films. So he'd worked with virtually every actor in town. CB: And then he did the extraordinary film The Boys, which is an unbelievable essay in atmosphere, how to create an atmosphere and sustain it. Um... Rowan brought so much to our show. BB: Uh, he is truly an uncompromising director. CB: Just amazing. And just to... just the opportunity to watch these back, Rowan's episodes especially, and just appreciate the things that he did, his shot choices, the way he chose to tell stories, and what he... what he endowed the actors with. He would always say to me, "Cee. Cee, Cee, Cee, come up with something really alien. Something weird, something different. And it always made me feel at the end of the day that I had delivered something that was outside the realm of normal television, and I think if you're gonna do TV, that's what... that's always what you're striving for. BB: Well, Rowan was an actor. Uh, and actually appears in episode four oh seven, uh, John Quixote. And, uh, he understand actors. He, and, but he... even more understands the camera. His, his shot selection, his... Oh, sweet... The way he understands how the story is told visually. It's a rare combination for someone to understand the acting and the visual as well, as Rowan does. And in addition, understanding the story and how those components actually tell the story. CB: Is that, um, the first shot ever of Scorpius? BB: That is the first shot. You just saw the first glimpse of Wayne. And if you notice, his helmet is different in these early episodes. They hadn't put the shine on it yet. He had a matte black helmet at that point, and a slightly different shape on it as well. All of his makeup evolved as the series went on. CB: And, and, in terms of the... um... it's revolutionary, actually, the makeup that they're using on Wayne. It's called... they... BB: Hot Flesh. CB: ...refer to it as Hot Flesh. It's got a translucency to it that the normal foam latex doesn't have. BB: That's 'cause it's silicon based. CB: And it worked beautifully on, on... this character, particularly, because it gives him such a haunted... um... gaunt look. BB: Well, and the thing about Hot Flesh is that you can actually... because it's translooshent [sic]... CB: [chuckles] BB: transLOOSHent [sic]... Yeah, because it's translucent you can see... if someone blushes under the makeup you can actually see it. CB: And the movement of it as well. BB: Oh, yeah. CB: It articulates much better with the muscles of the face. BB: Yeah. Well, we've both worn it. CB: [smiling] Yeah. BB: [chuckles] We've both worn his outfit too. CB: We've both been Scorpius. Yeah. Holy cow, I was almost asphyxiated and fainted in his outfit. BB: And, and we've both been... each other! [laughs] CB: Good lord. BB: But we never played D'Argo. CB: We've been around, haven't we? BB: [chuckles] We really have. CB: Here's another... and now... BB: This is a really interesting moment in... in the piece. CB: Yeah, it is actually. BB: Crichton is getting... he's getting ready... he's getting ready to be tested for DNA. And, the... I watched it with a child, and the child said, "He's gonna get busted! Aw, he's so busted! He is so busted!" Which I thought, "Yeah, you're right. Story-wise, Crichton is so busted." CB: He is so busted. BB: There is no way anybody... either Crichton or the audience thinks he's gonna get out of this one. CB: That's right. I watched it again, and I thought, "I have no idea how he gets beyond this checkpoint. I have no idea how he gets through." BB: And you think for a moment... you think, "Ah ha! See? This is another one. The writers dropped the ball!" [laughs] "I'm gonna blame the writers! It's gonna be one of those things that we just somehow get out of." But it actually ties-in in a really cool way, which you find out after the break. But it's a good tense moment, and this is one of those moments that Rowan will string out for about six weeks. CB: [giggles] It's so worth it, though! BB: Yeah. CB: I mean in a lot of Rowan's episodes, his... his setup is so long, the first act... BB: Is that... Gig I think was at forty frames... either that, or she's acting in forty frames, which she's also quite capable of. CB: Oh, you're in for it, those two... BB: Bah! NOT my hands! Those are not my hands. You... that... Look at the bad acting on those hands! That's not my hands. CB: They're not hairy! BB: Or maybe it's the... CB: No, they're not hairy. [smiling] That's why they're not yours. BB: Oh, that's right. No, no, no, no... CB: Wasn't it you saying that it's... BB: You know they're not mine, because they're not beat up, the fingernails are not broken and dirty... and also... they're, you know... this, this is a guy goin', "You want me to put 'em where?" Uh, I... you know, I woulda done something like, uh, flipped the bird or something to make the... [laughs] ...to make... They're saying [fake critic's voice], "That was a really great performance by those hands." CB: Or done a Vulcan sort of hand movement or something. And... uh, a nice Earth pop cultural reference. BB: [chuckles] Yeah. Yeah, uh, something to that effect or you know... played the piano. CB: That was... I mean... there was a lot a... that was expensive, wasn't it? Was that actual CGI of your hands or was that just you going into a hole in the console? BB: Naw, the actor that did it, he could actually will CGI there on to the screen. [they both laugh] Those, those were entirely CGI hands. CB: One of the art directors talked me through some stuff a few weeks ago when we were finishing off the... or a few months ago, rather, when we were finishing off the mini-series... Ah, Gilina. Now we know how Crichton got through that. BB: Yeah, that's how Crichton got out of it. Now, but if you didn't watch episode seven, you had no idea who, who this person was. This is where the series started taking storylines that we had already dealt with and bringing it back. And if... if this was the moment where, um... [chuckles] This is the moment where the SciFi Channel went, "What are you doin'?! You know, if people just tuned in they don't know who this chick is! Come on! Cut us a break. We want every episode to stand alone." CB: "We liked her. We want you to bring her back, but, uh, explain and say down the barrel of the lens who this person is." BB: Now, that look on Alyssa-Jane Cook, who plays Gilina... The look on her face where she's going, "what are you doing," was a look that she had the entire time we were shooting [laughs]. Because, we had progressed to this point in shooting the series where, one, we were working incredibly quickly, um... and we had a shorthand that we'd already started developing, so when people came in, they could easily be confused. Uh... But also, Crichton had changed so much that my interaction with her was completely different, uh... and so the... and she's... she said, she turned to me one day and said, "What's wrong? What's the matter?" And I, and I said, "What?" And she said, "Uh, you just act like you don't like me." [laughs] I said, "No, no, AJ, you're great. I love you." But Crichton had... by this time had been through enough that he had become harder and less innocent, and... you know, you really see this in this episode, and... um, really starting in Human Reaction. Human Reaction sets off a chain of events, which this is probably the critical link in. CB: But not only that, I mean, uh... Andrew Prowse and David Kemper have always said that in the Farscape universe, if you get hit it hurts. There are always consequences, and they wanted to make that... that aspect real. So the stakes are high here. Crichton's here on a mission to save Aeryn. She's got very limited amount of time. He's taken a massive risk getting down there, and as grateful as he is, and as surprised as he is that Gilina is there and can help, he's got, he's gotta move. BB: Yeah. But the, uh, even when the risks were high at the beginning of the season, Crichton had a "gee wiz" quality about him... CB: Mm [agreement] BB: ...which he is de... he's, he is devoid of. It's stripped away from him at this point. He's very, very serious. You're not seeing his many of the goofy looks that... that were more prevalent early on. CB: It's an interesting change, 'cause I think the producers and the, the network would've... I think they imagined that Crichton would, would maintain his sense of goofiness for three or four years. And it... just if we're playing everything... you know, if you get punched it hurts, then he's already scarred emotionally and psychologically from everything that's happened. So that prompted a turn from you later on to a, you know, Crichton starts to go crazy. And that was really the only place you could go. BB: Yeah. Well there was the natural development. The, the most uncomfortable beds in the Uncharted Territories. And you're... CB: And Rowan asked me to lie in it in a way that didn't make it look like an Earth bed, so I lay on it upside down. [chuckles] BB: Like how can you tell? The thing... CB: Yeah, I know. Exactly. [laughs] BB: The thing they... They, they, they design all the furniture on Moya as instruments of torture. If you sat on them or laid on them for more than five minutes, you ended up going to the doctor. CB: Oh, found out just sort of this year, after five years of torture, that one leg is significantly shorter than the other. No wonder I used to go home hobbling. BB: [laughs] CB: Better late than never. Rowan's the same, actually, we've got the same... leg anomaly. BB: [chuckles] You're both mutants. [laughs] CB: [chuckles] We belong in sci fi. BB: Look at Anthony Simcoe's makeup. CB: Very early... makeup. BB: Oh... Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate that we sit here going, "Look at how much things have changed." But... but, it... CB: It's development. BB: ...it's shocking when you see it. CB: Yeah. BB: When you see it and you, you've gotten used to seeing the other look. You realize not only how much the series changed tonally, but visually it also changed. CB: But I mean the... Part of the beauty of television is it forces you, especially, um, the creature shop, to, to constantly be in R&D, but as it... as it's happening, not in pre-production. You have to do it as you're shooting. And when things prove to be too difficult for Anthony to wear, whatever, they were adapted and changed. BB: Now this is the first episode, isn't it, where Chiana is playing the full-on trollop. CB: The trollop... BB: Yeah. CB: ...exactly. Using her body and her sex as a, as a tool of manipulation, which worked very well for the show. They needed to bring some sex in because they were determined to have [Ben laughs] Crichton and Aeryn as separated from each other as possible to keep that arc going. [Ben continues to laugh] Unresolved sexual tension forever. BB: "You two stay away from each other." CB: [smiling] That lasted as long as episode sixteen. BB: "No, no, no, I mean it! We're gonna... We're gonna pull out this sexual tension for fifteen years!" CB: Yeah. BB: So, yes, they bring in Chiana, and it "sexes it up." CB: Hmm. BB: I dunno, I thought you were pretty sexy from day one. CB: [turned on voice] Oh, baby... [Ben laughs] You had me at hello. BB: [muttering] "I don't know what they were on about..." Alright, wait... Now this, this was a couple. [laughs] CB: Yeah. These... these guys were kind of, you know, datin'. BB: Sort of. Except for I think D'Argo's changing allegiances here. [Claudia chuckles] He's now thinking about Aeryn, isn't he? CB: Or Chiana. BB: Well, he's gonna be in there holding... Well, no, at the moment it's Aeryn. He's gonna be in there holding your hand. CB: [laughing] It's a smorgasbord; he's keeping his options open. BB: Yeah, D'Argo, and that would be true to D'Argo. He's got his... CB: No. He's... BB: ... options open all the way. Okay... CB: The interesting thing about D'Argo... BB: ...down in the neural cluster fondling... [Claudia snickers] fondling Moya, you know? CB/BB: [both laugh] CB: D'Argo and Aeryn were established from very early on... I think episode two and episode four... they had their sort of little warrior chats when we would do what were called "Euro Scenes," where they were for, um, countries that, that, that showed the show without commercial interruptions. BB: Mm. [agreement] CB: We would do these extra couple of minutes of... scenes. BB: Yeah, and there's Euro Scenes in this cut, but I don't know which ones they are. CB: They're generally two-handers, which have a lot of character talk, and not much that advances the story. BB: I know, but I can't tell which ones they are when I watch it. A lot of times, when I watch an episode, I can go, "Oh, no, those are Euro Scenes," but I have no idea which ones they are in this episode. CB: And tip the hat to Rowan for that, because he's made everything interesting. BB: Either that or Justin Monjo who wrote the script. CB: Oh, yes, indeed. BB: No! It was... Ricky wrote this script. CB: Ricky Manning. BB: Ricky Manning. CB: Terrific. I love Ricky. BB: Although I often think of the two as the same person. CB: [chuckles] Well, the time they had to spend up in that writer's room, I wouldn't be surprised if they were. BB: [laughs] [in deep announcer voice] "The two headed writer..." Rowan woods is not afraid of getting in tight. And you see more examples of it later, but you... you watch these episodes and watch his episodes in particular... he will go in to an extreme, extreme close-up. CB: Yeah. E.C. ends with an eye... BB: And quite frequently. But he's good at finding the drama, and when the drama is... like that scene... in tight, that's where he goes. CB: The... The interesting division between what Aeryn has to offer Crichton and what Gilina has to offer is Gilina was established with... as from the minute she's brought in as, as the... uh... the real brains. I mean she's a tech. Aeryn says that, you know, she's... she... was... born to be a pilot; she doesn't deal with any of the nerdy tech stuff. That's what these guys do. And so these two, Crichton and Gilina, we're supposed to believe, have a real meeting of the minds -- and of the eyebrows... BB: Yeah... the... this was this thing that was established in episode seven of this year that sebaceans kiss the eyebrow. CB: Which is retarded. I, uh... [both laugh] I'm like, if I'm gonna kiss those lips of Ben Browder's... [Ben continues to laugh] You know, I'm gonna get rid of this eyebrow thing as soon as possible. BB: Yeah, but guest cast will adhere the scripts. See they, they know that the script is gold. So they, they kiss the eyebrow. But it's kind of interesting. It's, it's only Gilina's thing. Maybe it's... CB: Because she's a nerd! BB: ...Peacekeeper techs who kiss on the eyebrows. CB: She's a [in a drawn out geeky voice] NERD. BB: I dunno. But, you know, there is something in that. Have you ever tried it? [pregnant pause] Just the kissing on the eyebrows. CB: Alright, go kiss me on the eyebrow. Come on. BB: It's not bad. [Claudia giggles] [pause] CB: Yeah, it's not bad. [Ben laughs hysterically] I can think of more ways to have fun with my clothes on, but... [she almost laughs] At least now I know. BB: Yeah. Alyssa was definitely wondering, "What in the world is that jerk doing?" CB: "I can't believe I came back for this?!" BB: "Why did I come back for this? He's not even being nice." Look, forty frames again. I look good in forty frames... This is a good thing. CB: Oh, we all do... I love it. But so... it... well placed. Very specific moments that Rowan chooses it. Here we have our fantastic arch villains. I really do believe that Scorpius is one of the best villains in science fiction, ever. BB: I... but I do miss PK Barbie. CB: Yeah... BB: You know, I mean... Braca's lovely, I love David Franklin, but... God... [Claudia chuckles] PK Barbie, man... CB: Woo! BB: Yeah! That was Scorpius' assistant, who's behind him. What's her name? CB: Imogen. BB: That's right. Imogen Annesley. Heh. Boy, I get my ass kicked a lot, don't I? [Claudia and Ben chuckle] At least they didn't have to shoot, 'cause they would've missed. I love this shot being dragged away. CB: Yeah, I love that too. BB: That would be uncompromising. CB: [smiling] Crosses the line, and it's just beautiful. I mean, I actually... does it or doesn't it? It just stays because you put the thing in then and... BB: Yeah. No, it's good. It's on the... Everything's good about it. Ah, the Aurora Chair... that would become the instrument... that propels the entire series forward. The Aurora Chair was originally designed as an excuse for a clip show. CB: Mm. [agreement] BB: Every year we would come out going, "Oh, we gotta save some money. Gotta do a clip show." So this was originally supposed to be a cheap episode [Claudia laughs] with a clip show. And the Aurora Chair was gonna be the device that allowed production to get caught up. It was gonna be cheap and inexpensive and dirty and we were basically gonna show clips with the Aurora Chair. CB: And audiences who were just tuning in for these sort of episodes to catch up. BB: That's right. In the end, what? There's maybe thirty seconds of Aurora Chair flashbacks. CB: Yeah. BB: [chuckles] Typical Farscape fashion. We're gonna save money, and we spent money. CB: Fantastic. BB: Yeah. CB: We would get... BB: We should talk about Wayne Pygram. CB: Oh, boy... BB: This, this was the first scene I shot with Wayne. Um... [laughs] Spinning around in a chair. And he has these incredibly wordy lines that they wrote in this "arch" script, and... I mean, and it's one of those things that, which as an actor is very, very difficult to make right. CB: Mm. [agreement] BB: But he was... he's helped in one thing, in that he's wearing that awesome... CB: Gimp outfit. [laughs] BB: ...makeup. He's a gimp. He's a gimp, so he's, you know, sexual at the same time as scary. But Wayne has a particular delivery that he decided on before he came in. CB: Which plays against the tone of the script and makes [something -- darn Ben Browder for talking over her!]... BB: It plays actually against the punctuation. I don't want to be giving away Wayne's secrets, but, uh, I was talking with him. I said, "It's really interesting what you're doing with the... with the page, man." He goes, "What do you mean?" CB: There you go. Blink and you'll miss it. That was the clip show. [laughs] BB: There. That was the clip show. CB: Yeah. BB: Ah, PK Barbie... Yeah, there ya go. We're gonna go in tight! Tight. Man! CB: Mm. Beautiful green eyes. BB: That's, uh, one of the few times in season one you notice that I have those color eyes. CB: And that you're young. BB: [chuckles] And that I'm young. [Claudia giggles] I wasn't young. I was an old guy. CB: Oh, boy... BB: I was an old guy even then. I was, you know, [something -- darn Claudia for talking over Ben!]. CB: This still cou... I remember the crew coming back and, uh, you know, all day... This was a scene I wasn't involved with, and they would just say, "God, Ben's really being put through the wringer on the Aurora Chair, and he's working so hard and it's really exhausting." And what you see for a few minutes on-screen translates to at least a day or two of sitting in that thing and screaming your guts out. BB: Yeah, I spent a day. It was, it was kinda painful. I should finish my talk about Wayne though. CB: Yeah. BB: So I talked to him about the... his, his delivery, and I, I mentioned to him, I said, "You're... you're playing with the punctuation in a really interesting fashion." He goes, "You noticed that?" CB: Mm. [agreement] BB: "Oh, yeah, I noticed it. What have I got to do? I'm just sitting here screaming. I, I've got to entertain myself somehow." But it was very, very effective. Tell me about this thing. CB: Oh, the... The cross I bear. This was, uh... Somehow they find this device or con... they get the DRDs to construct it, um, to tap Aeryn into Moya's systems so that because she has the ability to, to heal and regenerate because the ship is a living ship, which was another aspect of Farscape that was quite original. And as an actor, I just enjoyed the opportunity to do something that had to look involuntary. BB: Flexing. [chuckles] CB: Yeah. BB: As an actor, I love flexing. [they both chuckle] CB: Wait, let me... let me do some push ups. BB: Ah, did you notice... CB: That's a.. Look, look at this expensive prop. Look at it! Look at the CGI. She gets all fancy stuff to work with. BB: And, and she gets... And she gets the prowler eyes. CB: No wonder you had a crush on her. Our, uh, Ollie, one of our art directors, was telling me that each prop on Farscape cost at... a minimum of two thousand dollars, but somewhere between two and four thousand dollars each prop. BB: Wow. CB: Yeah. BB: We should start point out and going, "That's two thousand dollars?!" But, you know, it... the interesting thing about props... I went to the Science Fiction museum recently... Science Fiction Museum and Hall of Fame, run by Paul Allen, who... built by Paul Allen's company. And, uh, you, you looked at... there were a lot of film props, and a lot of props from these great science fiction shows, and I was... I went, "Wow, our props are as good as their props." Some props that you have in hands, it's just "hide the monster," "what is this?" If they look at it, you know, "It's a salt shaker! I'm sorry, this is a salt shaker. You can't hide the fact it's a salt shaker. What do you mean I'm fixing the prowler with a salt shaker?!" CB: But it's, it's the same, um, it's the same stuff but a different planet everywhere you go. I just did an episode of Stargate, and one of the props that they have to deal with, which is probably their major prop... BB: Which is the gate itself, and it's actually part of an amusement ride... CB: [laughs] No. No, no, not that. It's the thing that they "zat" you with, and, and... BB: There's little cars that go around in circles... CB: Michael Shanks pointed it at me, and I was like, [smiling] "Dude, you're gonna... seriously? I'm... What, I'm threatened by that? It's like a snake... [Ben laughs] ...that look... looks like it's come out of your pants! Put it away. Seriously, I'd rather you punch me." It was so funny. He said, "Look, uh, what can I do?" BB: Was it... was it better, though, than the PleasureBot 3000? CB: Oh, boy... nothing beats that. [Claudia chuckles, Ben laughs] It's so funny... no one wanted to touch it. It was like a hot potato. Episode... two or four? BB: Uh... CB: Season one. BB: It was episode two. CB: And it was written in the script that one of the, uh... BB: When we were looking... CB: ...one of the characters had to be carrying... BB: ...for the clorium. CB: We were looking for clorium, and it obviously detected it, but it was basically a TV remote but with two pieces that sort of elevated once you got closer and closer to clorium, and then lights flashed and whathaveyou, and no one wanted to carry it. [they both chuckle] BB: Gosh, shooting a scene like this is, is problematic, because everything's spinning, everything has to be lit, and then there's a green screen component wherever the Aurora, Aurora Chair screen is. It... really amazing to pull off something like this on the time schedule that it's pulled off in. Ah... CB: Farscape looks great in rock clip fashion, all that CGI that take, took weeks on end to make. When you put it into a... it's like an orgy of beautiful images. BB: Yeah, we really should take the show, rock clip it up, and slow everything to forty frames. We'd be rockin'! It is an impressive array of other races considering you're only in episode nineteen of season one. When I saw the clips cut together and thrown in the episode, I... I was slightly baffled by the scope and the scale... CB: Yeah. BB: ...of the series. CB: Espe... Yeah. And that creature, um... I mean, everything took research and development, which the Henson company are famous for. They put a lot of time and money into things. Rygel, it was about a million dollars worth, and a year of technology and, and uh, experimentation. BB: Ah, okay, now here's the... Here we're getting to the critical story point that the audience didn't know about. That John didn't know about, which is now gonna propel the entire arc forward. The Ancients have implanted wormhole information in John Crichton's head. God, why did they do that?! [laughs] CB: And now, and now at this moment, Crichton has a new nemesis. It's no longer really Bialar Crais, it's, it's gonna be about Scorpius. BB: That's right. He's got a new scary friend. Here it is. Ooo... CB: And we're in a room with a spinning fan. BB: Yeah. CB: Two spinning fans! BB: Yeah, well that's the sci fi th... I was waiting for you to mention the spinning fan. [Claudia laughs] I knew that, you know, "Why is there always a fan?" CB: Yeah. BB: [chuckles] "I'm gonna kill the writer!" It's something about... CB: [in American accent, mocking line from Galaxy Quest] "Computer, is there a spare Beryllium Sphere on board?" [Ben laughs] "Negative." BB: [mocking Galaxy Quest computer] "There is no Beryllium Sphere on board." CB: [continuing voice] "Negative. There is no Beryllium Sphere on board." "Look, I have one job on this show. I know it's stupid, but I'm gonna do it!" [Ben continues soft laughter] Sorry, that was a bit of a Galaxy Quest rant. BB: The cliches of science fiction, which are unavoidable. CB: Ugh. And delightful. We had... Once we'd seen Galaxy Quest, it was almost impossible to come to set every day and take it seriously. BB: It's a bit scary how the things that you... we did... you did, we did, I did in season one continue to come back. The thing of being in that light and looking up in the light and, "Uh, uh, uh," that little movement... Ended up doing it again in season three. You know, the writers would put something in, and you go, "Wait a minute. How did I do that? How did I... I know, I did it..." It's a bit like life. Everything comes back on you, and Farscape certainly does that to you in the things we would do. Ah! CB: The beginning of Crichton going crazy. BB: Yeah. It's the beginning of Crichton going nuts. It's really well cut, this sequence. CB: It's an interesting story too, because you're not sure what Crichton exactly is trying to block. BB: Yeah, no, you don't know in, in this episode. It's a two-parter. Hidden Memory is the other half of -- unfortunately, we're not doing that one as well -- the other half of Nerve. Um, and you find out later what he's actually trying to hide. He doesn't even know anything about the wormholes, so he... he's not sure what the hell's going on. [shot laugh] Scorpius certainly seems to know what's going on. He's gonna get at it! CB: But this is actually also the... really the beginning of Crichton for the next few seasons just, you know, giving every alien he comes across the finger. BB: Oh... now, there's a disgusting shot somewhere in this sequence. You... you can... CB: Oh, no, no... BB: ...with the spit? CB: I think it's... BB: The dribble? CB: Isn't it in the next episode? BB: Uh, no, it's in this episode. Maybe it's not in this sequence. It's, it's later, but... CB: Oh, it's a golly! BB: But, you know what... It looked like it hurt! CB: Yeah. BB: And it actually did kinda hurt. [Claudia chuckles] I was workin'... Normally you think, "Oh, god, I don't have hardly any lines. This'll be an easy day. I'm sittin' in a chair." CB: There you go! Uh! Ooo... BB: That's ju... and it gets worse, later. CB: Oh... BB: Oh, man, it's... And then... CB: [smiles] Kiss me! BB: And then.. .Oh, yeah, baby... [Claudia giggles] And then unfocus. This is another thing. Rowan was big on transitions in season one. CB: Oh, here we go... sorry. BB: Ah. CB: Some silence please for the wonderful Paul Goddard. Such a fabulous actor. He brought us... truly great gifts. Whole point of this was that he's supposed to be playing crazy, but the, uh, wh... when the writers decided to keep Paul on the show and keep Stark around, his character became so schizophrenic, he would just be useful in different way to, to advance the stories, so... And Paul just dealt with it. And very elegant solutions always to all the... all the problems that he was presented with. BB: Man, he's fantastic in this scene. When we finish shooting zee... [switches to fake German accent] "Zeese epizodes. Ven ve ver shootink zeese epizodes..." CB: [also fake German accent] "Vy are you German?" BB: "...I vent... I vent screaming to zee writers..." [chuckles] I went screaming to the writers and said, "You gotta get this guy. Keep this guy. Keep this guy. Keep this guy." CB: Mm. [agreement] BB: It was always at the... "Please, don't, don't kill him. Don't kill him. Don't kill him." "He's not dying." "Okay, good." Um... Paul is fantastic. He really is... remarkable. CB: Beautiful theater actor, and... uh... BB: And film actor. He was in The Matrix, man! CB: Oh, god, yeah! But I mean just, uh, often the actors who've, who've come from a background in theater, they come and then they're choices... they fit the scope of the show. BB: Interesting that line... um... CB: "Danger, Will Robinson"? BB: The "Danger, Will Robinson, beware of the chair." To deliver that line, in, in that context... it's very Farscape. It's a joke, but it's not a joke. And... the way Rowan shoots it, the way the story develops, it actually plays, I think, in an interesting fashion. CB: If you see the, uh, the top part of my is real... [makes disgusted sound] And then once the g... once the, you see the strap on the top of my... bottom of my, uh, shoulder, that's a prosthetic arm, and I'm just attached to it. BB: Now, did you just, did you just slip into that? Or did your arm disappear behind? CB: I think I slipped into it. I'm trying to remember... BB: There's like a sleeve or something you put on? CB: Yeah, I think I went... Yeah, no, I did go through, because I then had to create the pulsing from my wrist at the other end. BB: See, if I was doing that, they would've actually put the tube in my arm. [Claudia snickers] I'd say, "No, no, I want the real thing. Put the tube in my arm!" CB: [in American annoyed voice] What-ever. BB: [laughs] That's why I never had a stunt double. No, no, no, I want to fall off the cliff. CB: You never had a stunt double? That's news to me. BB: Okay, um, now see Moya's, Moya's given birth, or starting to give birth here, is that right? CB: Yeah, we have a Leviathan living ship, which is... has been impregnated by the Peacekeepers, and it's, uh, it's not a... a normal, natural Leviathan. We find that out in this episode. BB: Boy, there's a lot of back-story coming into this episode... CB: Yeah. BB: Wouldn't you be a bit confused of... CB: Yeah. BB: You know? [laughs] CB: I, I, I was in a perpetual state of confusion. BB: I'm sorry the... "Uh, uh, uh, the ship's doing what?" CB: Here we go. Forty frames. BB: And then, and then he ramped up in-shot. CB: Mm. [agreement] There you go. This is a... you know a bit of... trial and error with Chiana's makeup. They had to work out how to make her... BB: You see those steps? I wanted those steps. CB: You want to keep... [snorts] BB: I wanted to keep those steps. Big rot iron steps. We were shooting... CB: Spiral staircase. BB: Yeah, we were shooting in the base of a silo. And, um, the silo was an old... it was an old grain silo, not a missile silo. So it was an old grain silo, and there was grain dust with pesticides [Claudia giggles] that you couldn't avoid in the bottom. CB: And asbestos, wasn't there? BB: Roughly half the crew... came down with a, with a sinus condition. I ended up having... a migraine headache for two weeks, with... And I've never had a migraine in my life. CB: Mm. BB: Not before and not since. From working the week that we worked in the base of this grain silo, which is... which doubles as parts of the Gammak Base. CB: But it looks cool. [laughs] BB: Now this is outside. Yeah, look, "The architecture's great, man... It's really cool." CB: [smiling] It looks great. BB: You know, so I got the migraine, but I didn't get the staircases. It was a... all that fantastic architecture scattered about in old buildings that we would occasionally pop into and use. CB: Everyone gets a go in the Chair in this. [Ben chuckles] Interesting. BB: You don't. Did you ever get a go in the chair? CB: No, there's a big moment coming up for Aeryn, actually... BB: Oh, that's... in... Oh, this ep? CB: I think it's the next one. Part of this block of story. BB: It's... it's Hidden Memory. CB: You know, you're right. BB: Yeah. So we can't talk about it. Another big moment. CB: [smiling] Sure we can. BB: Do we want to talk about where this was shot? Or is that giving away secrets? CB: Is it Middlehead? BB: It is Middlehead. CB: Oh, this... BB: Corridor stuff and the cell sequences with Stark were shot at Middlehead. CB: So the base... In order to construct the base, we had, had to use two locations and some... did we do sets? BB: Some sets, yeah. The, the Aurora Chair was a set that we built next to Pilot's Den, which was the hottest set in the history of the universe. CB: [mock crying] But at least it was at Fox Studios... BB: Ah, yes. It was at Fox Studios, but it wasn't air conditioned and... CB: Is that... BB: ...it could warm up. CB: It looks like a massive Keno in the shot! Have they just dressed our... BB: They've dressed... CB: They've dressed our Kenos in as part of the set. BB: They've dressed Kenos into the shot. [chuckles] And you see the editor going, "We've got a light in-shot!" CB: [laughs] "Wait a minute, I count ten!" BB: Wait, wait... "I can't squeeze the frame. Oh. Oh, it's okay then." Yeah, we would... we would occasionally dress-in practical lights. But, yeah, those are Kenos. Kenos are, um... fluorescent bulb lights. CB: Oh, yeah, it's not shiny. You can see it there. His helmet's... BB: Yeah. His, his helmet's not shiny. CB: I love the sets where you got clipped... BB: And this was... This was a set that we built... CB: Tiny little thing. BB: ...which they would put the outside... Yeah. CB: Look at it! Look how expensive that is, that she's got CGI coming out of her prop. BB: You're a little jealous of her CGI, aren't you? CB: I'm... I'm having envy. I've gotta say. BB: [chuckles, in mock Claudia begging voice] "Can I get the good CGI next time?" CB: She's blonde, she's got CGI... [sucks in a breath] BB: [laughs] CB: [in mock American whiny voice] "Aw, man..." BB: Ah, that was one of my favorite shots of the entire series, this one. CB: Yeah, this one. BB: This kinda light we didn't use early in the ep... in the episodes. Early season we didn't use... That's a ten mill lens, for those... for you film buffs out there. That's a really wide angle lens on thirty five mill. It has that distortion, and, and when you get into it, it gives you a really warped look. I love the ten mill lens. CB: Yeah. BB: The tens, the fourteens, the seventeen fives of the world, which... people like Tony Tilse and Rowan are in love with. CB: Yeah. BB: But I love that ten mill lens, 'cause you can get in there and... Oh, that's weird lookin'... [Claudia begins to chuckle] We should go through and pick the lens. [in dorky voice] "Okay, that's a seventy five." CB: As we, as... [snorts] Yeah. Nerd! [Ben laughs] Show off. BB: [in dorky voice] "That would be a twenty seven five. Fairly close." [laughs] Actually, it... it may be a seventeen five. Yeah, you'd almost be seventeen five lens to... get the room. CB: Now this is a significant moment. I mean for Crichton, finally, after everything he's been through for... to be tortured and then to have Bialar Crais turn up, it's a su... big surprise for him. BB: He hasn't seen Crais for half a year. CB: Yeah. So this sort of... BB: This is a really good Chiana moment. This is a really good Chiana moment here. CB: Yeah. Chiana lies. [short laugh] BB: I remember them talking about this in the writer's room. I think it came out of a re-write. Them saying, "Well, how do we get Gilina... Gilina's just you know, this... How do we get to do it?" And somebody saying, "Chiana lies." "Well, you know, she shouldn't really lie, should she?" CB: Yeah. BB: You know? There, there's that... that thing in, in television drama where your characters are supposed to be noble. Um. Or at least... CB: [smiling] Uh-oh, Farscape... We didn't worry about that little rule! We all had a load of problems. BB: Nobody was noble, no. She just flat out lies to it... And I mean in the most manipulative sort of mean fashion. The girl's in love and, "No, he loves you." [Claudia lets out short chuckle] Hey, Crichton's gonna cop it! [laughs] CB: Well... BB: And, and be a little confused about it. But it's really real. It's good. CB: ...there's, there's a lot of... pardon the pun... I know we're talking about Chiana, but there is a lot of gray area in this episode about how... [Ben exhales loudly] ...how Crichton feels. [Ben laughs] There's Chiana... he has [something]... BB: A lot of... [fake Claudia voice] "Chiana, there's a lot of gray area..." CB: Oh, quiet you. BB: [fake Galaxy Quest voice] "Computer..." [he cracks up] Lani... Lani's... Lani's great in this too. He's... he's the man that's now really on edge. CB: Yeah. He's, he's a, he's a renegade captain. We find it out in this... in this block that he's... he's been found out by his own people. He's um... has ignored his um... orders. BB: Mm. [agreement] CB: And is on... on a personal... he's a... it's a personal vendetta against Crichton, which has fueled most of the tension of season one... to this point. BB: Yeah, he plays it well, though. He, he plays it well. All the characters... All, all the characters have evolved by this point in the story. Every single one of them. CB: Yeah. BB: Uh... that's, that's a quick evolution for series television. Normally people seem to stay the same on TV. You can tune in week in and week out and you're gonna get the same thing, and nobody here is the same. Everybody's changed. Oh, Cool Hand Luke reference! Whenever you slip in a Cool Hand Luke reference, you're in good nick. I used to, um... I used to scrawl number thirty seven in places on set [Claudia chuckles], because that was Cool Hand Luke's, uh, prison number, that, for his clothes and stuff, and I used to like put it in appropriate places, either in books or on my arm or somewhere. CB: That shot there of the, uh... from the POV so that you can see the... here. BB: Yeah. CB: And you saw Chiana walking. Did Rowan already know that he wanted to do that shot in advance, so when they did the shot of them dragging you away... did they schedule it so that Chiana then come in to a similar shot? BB: Um... I don't think so. CB: Or did they come up with that idea later? BB: I don't think so. They came up and, and shot that again later. CB: Okay. BB: I mean we knew that we needed the shot there. The dragging away shot was actually something we talked about on the day, where I... CB: Right. BB: ...I said you know, "Uh. I, well, you know, what, I..." You know, it was one of those days where we're goin', "What about this? What about this?" Uh... CB: There you go. "Telephone exchange. Connecting you now." [pause, then in campy British operator voice] "Please hold..." [Ben laughs] "The number you are calling knows you are waiting. Please hold the line, while we try to connect you." BB: You know, and... CB: [nasal voice] "Price check on aisle three. Price check on aisle three." [smiling] I love the voice overs in this! That woman... BB: I know, but she's, but she's got an A.D. off camera going, [Claudia chuckles] "There's an evacuation warning! Oh, yeah, evacuation warning on three!" CB: And then they pay someone to come in and go, [nasal voice] "Price check on aisle three. Price check on aisle three." [Ben laughs] "Kraft slices, please." BB: It is a bit like that, that voice-over at the beginning of the movies... "Get your popcorn..." [laughs] This really broad Aussie... [Claudia chuckles] ...accent asking you to buy popcorn and Coke before the movies in Australia. CB: Yeah. This is actually a very groovy solution. Rowan never wanted to satisfy... never wanted to settle for less. So, you know, he... this is quite an elegant solution to what ordinarily would've been a, a, a quickly shot fight sequence. BB: Yeah. [they both laugh] Okay. CB: What? BB: Actually, I think they were a bit... Rowan was kinda stitched about this, because he wanted the big fight sequence, but we didn't have time in the schedule. CB: Yeah. But this is what I'm saying... BB: It was a shocker. CB: Yeah. BB: We didn't have time in the schedule. Can you believe that, kids? CB: Well, this, this is why I'm saying... It's a pretty good solution, all things considered. BB: It's a... Naw, it's... CB: It cuts together quite well. BB: It's the... It's a very good solution, but that, that's... that was what... that's what we did. It was, "Let's find a solution." CB: Great... moments for Chiana, where you see her just using everything she's got to just survive. BB: [smiling] See, Chiana gets CG too... CB: I know, look! BB: Where's your CG? CB: And look, and they made up her... This is in the days when creature shop still extra time to make burned corpses. BB: I... I think that was actually a producer they just dragged out and burned... [Claudia chuckles] Didn't they? [Ben chuckles] CB: There ya go. BB: [smiling] Yeah, we had producers go missing all the time, and they'd just, you know... And then bodies would turn up on set. CB: Her and her reverse makeup. Sort of with the bits of gray popping out here and there. BB: Yeah. There's your CG, see? Look. You get a whole ship CG. CB: That was Chiana flying. BB: But it's your ship. CB: [whispers] What-ever. BB: [chuckles] CB: You just go and sleep with more chicks in the universe, and I'll just die. BB: There's the two thousand dollar prop in action. [Claudia giggles] Wait a minute... Well, for two thousand dollars, you'd want it to save somebody. CB: Our very butch warrior talk. BB: He is butch though. Very butch, D'Argo. CB: Oh, look, Aeryn has a bit of a sense of humor. BB: See, look... [chuckles] That's good use, though, that, that, that, that racked focus there, you know... CB: Mm. [agreement] BB: ...I mean it, uh... normally, pe... someone would come in, they'd use it in the beginning of the scene and you'd never see it again. CB: Mm. BB: You know, the, the... the foresight to do it again. To go back to that. The, that choice is... visually... you know, basically, I, I should just get a job being paid to talk about how great Rowan is. [Claudia chuckles] Because, uh, he is. He's magnificent. He, uh, swapped stories with Cate Blanchett after he finishes with her next film. CB: Yeah. BB: Rowan Woods is directing Cate Blanchett and a host of stars in a up... in, in his next project. You call him up; [smiling] hit him up for a job. Just so you can hang out. See? D'Argo's... that's where D'Argo is now... D'Argo is now after Aeryn. CB: He's, he's not! BB: He's a dog. CB: [sighs] He so is not. BB: [chuckles] And... I... oh... CB: He doesn't need to prove himself with women. [smiling] He's got extra tentacles. [pause and then they both snort] E.T. BB: One day we should just sit and talk about how bad everything is instead of how good everything is. But Wayne's fantastic! [chuckles] CB: Very, very sinister. BB: Yeah, but, it's also very simple. Oh... Crichton's losing it, isn't he? CB: There's always, you know, with excellent villains, who have such high status, there's always a sense that they enjoy what's hap... what they're doing to other people. Wayne nails it. BB: Well, that was Nerve. CB: There ya go. To be continued. BB: Yeah. CB: You have to run out and buy the, the next DVD. BB: It's a real pleasure to sit here with you, and look, look at ourselves in our... in our youth. CB: Thank you, excellent fans of Farscape. You must be a fan if you've... [giggling] sat through all of this commentary to be hearing this at the end [Ben laughs]. BB: Yeah. [in fake fan voice] "You know, those from... They, they don't make much sense, do they hon?" [Claudia chuckles] "I don't... You know... I didn't get anything out of that." CB: [in fake American Redneckish accent] "Pass me... Ben, pass me another beer." [Ben laughs] BB: [in similar fake Redneckish accent] "Honey!" CB: "I'm thirsty!" BB: "You better get rid of this Farscape addiction, because those folks are borin', and they don't know a damned thing about film making!" [Claudia laughs] "Ten mill... afem... what does that mean? Ten mill lens..." CB: "Them actin' folks who just talk and talk, and love the sound of their own voices." BB: "He's just tryin' to show off! That boy don't know nothin'." CB: "All that fancy high falutin' talk." BB: "And that girl... She spent her whole time goin', 'Computer...'" [cracks up] "'...is there spare Beryllium Sphere on board?'" [Claudia laughs] It was torture. It was a hard work... We hated every minute of it. Um... Yeah... it's just a nightmare to relive it all, don't you think? CB: [pause, then Ben cracks up] I love you. [Claudia laughs] BB: [in fake Redneckish voice] "I love you too, baby." CB: Now shut up and get me a drink. BB: Thank you, Jim Henson! CB: Bye! [END] |